tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315236707728759521.post2579791215238655343..comments2022-01-18T14:47:56.421-07:00Comments on Dispatches From Turtle Island: An Ansatz Re The Basis Of Koide's FormulaAndrew Oh-Willekehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02537151821869153861noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315236707728759521.post-21828574690863905582013-12-05T21:18:34.513-07:002013-12-05T21:18:34.513-07:00A Koide triple t-b-c using existing t and b masses...A Koide triple t-b-c using existing t and b masses implies a mass of 1.356 GeV for the charm quark. This is about 7.9% more than the current 1.257 GeV experimental value for the charm quark, which is almost 4 sigma from the current value given much improved precision in this value as of 2012.<br /><br />This is a real problem for quark Koide triples and even my Ansatz since the exclusion of the fairly modest probability c-d transition probably shouldn't have such a huge effect although the d is effectively zero relative to the s and b masses. However, the Koide ladder value of 92 MeV for the strange quark remains right on the money.andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08172964121659914379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315236707728759521.post-44783371318644802672013-03-17T21:25:46.483-06:002013-03-17T21:25:46.483-06:00If I was trying to make a theory in the image of t...If I was trying to make a theory in the image of this proposal, I would think about two potential ingredients: <br /><br /><a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0206251" rel="nofollow">Xavier Calmet's preonic theory of the weak interaction</a>. The reason is that it places the Higgs and the W in the same family of composite bosons - see page 29 for the details - which would make something like the H,W,Z sum rule more plausible. <br /><br />The other is the chiral graviweak unification discussed in <a href="http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=670299" rel="nofollow">this PF thread</a> - I mean the basic idea that weak SU(2) and Ashtekar SU(2) are opposite chiral components of the same connection. <br /><br />Incidentally, Calmet has also argued for <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1012.5529" rel="nofollow">a resemblance between weak and gravitational interactions</a>. <br /><br />Occasionally you get people on the forums asking how the Higgs boson is related to the graviton, since they have heard that the Higgs "creates mass". If we could combine your ansatz with chiral graviweak unification, there really would be a tight relationship between the field that creates mass and the field that responds to it.Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10768655514143252049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315236707728759521.post-50820302218693596652013-03-14T18:47:07.485-06:002013-03-14T18:47:07.485-06:00Post-script conjecture:
I wouldn't be surpris...Post-script conjecture:<br /><br />I wouldn't be surprised if it was possible to prove from first principles that if fundamental fermion rest masses and mixing matrixes are determined entirely by a W boson coupling mechanism, rather than the SM Higgs mechanism, that a generalized Koide ratio mass relationship for interacting particles in a necessary and unique element of any globally consistent solution that assigns values to these parameters, or that it is necessary produces a solution that is unique at any given renormalization group energy scale (providing a one dimensional parameter space of valid solutions).andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08172964121659914379noreply@blogger.com