tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315236707728759521.post3297026331693037488..comments2024-03-28T21:52:52.100-06:00Comments on Dispatches From Turtle Island: Was The Celtic Transition Demic?Andrew Oh-Willekehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02537151821869153861noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315236707728759521.post-48389269124421090362017-02-17T18:35:22.671-07:002017-02-17T18:35:22.671-07:00Discussion here: http://www.anthrogenica.com/showt...Discussion here: http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?9750-Blog-post-quot-Was-The-Celtic-Transition-Demic-quot<br /><br />My quote is sourced to: This is a recent Master's thesis from University of Fairbanks. M. Anctil, 2016. Ancient Celts: myth, invention, or reality? Dental affinities among continental and non-continental Celtic groups https://scholarworks.alaska.edu/handle/11122/6802<br /><br />'Celtic' is being used here to refer to Hallstatt/La Tene material cultural styles, which is somewhat out of favour these days but far from gone, as Jean says. The author is not assuming that the connection of Hallstatt with linguistic Proto-Celts is actually correct.<br /><br />The populations are: "Proto-Celts" - Hallstatt D phase (675-450 BC), from Hallstatt, Austria, n=30; "Continental Celts" - La Tene period (420-240 BC), from Musingen, Switzerland, n=33; "Non-Continental Celts" - Middle Iron Age (400-100 BC), Yorkshire, n=31; "comparative sample" - Iron Age (650-300 BC), from Pontecagnano, Campania (outside of the La Tene area), n=31. The Yorkshire samples are from five different graveyards which are noted for having burial rituals (Arras culture) similar to continental ones of the time (square barrows, cart burials) and has been linked to immigration from France. <br /><br />The discussion seems to assume that I'm not aware that the genetic transformation coincides with Bell Beaker, and not with Hallstad/Le Tene. Of course, I am and that is the point. The difference is in an opinion about the language associated with Bell Beaker - I argue it is Vasconic rather than Proto-Celtic or even Indo-European.andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08172964121659914379noreply@blogger.com