tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315236707728759521.post8559864608882904736..comments2024-03-27T22:28:06.861-06:00Comments on Dispatches From Turtle Island: Did Dogs Originate In Mongolia Or Tibet?Andrew Oh-Willekehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02537151821869153861noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315236707728759521.post-78693778809516866912015-10-29T17:43:48.353-06:002015-10-29T17:43:48.353-06:00I added new comment at Paleo-Asian post II.I added new comment at Paleo-Asian post II.DDedenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10033851770461086341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315236707728759521.post-38977587373358249592015-10-21T15:56:30.166-06:002015-10-21T15:56:30.166-06:00The 15kya estimate does seem on the recent end giv...The 15kya estimate does seem on the recent end given the presence of dogs in the Founding population of the New World, and archaic evidence of earlier domestication. Perhaps there was a LGM and immediate post-LGM bottleneck similar to that observed in humans.andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08172964121659914379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315236707728759521.post-43158573374963465012015-10-21T15:28:51.570-06:002015-10-21T15:28:51.570-06:00My vote: A pack of Tibetan wolves were isolated on...My vote: A pack of Tibetan wolves were isolated on Phu Quoc Island south of Cambodia, Pygmies (ancestral to SamrePear) using woven coracles (mongolu{Mbuti]:night/moon hut = inverted harigolu[India]:day/sun-boat) found them and domesticated them 45ka but deliberate breeding for traits began 15ka with incipient agriculture and territorial sedentary advantages.DDedenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10033851770461086341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315236707728759521.post-85905476107109217492015-10-20T03:30:24.969-06:002015-10-20T03:30:24.969-06:00
What about this:
http://www.scientificamerican.c...<br />What about this:<br /><br />http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dog-domestication-much-older-than-previously-known/Matty Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14221370485815006762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315236707728759521.post-20237982518039544492015-10-19T20:03:04.638-06:002015-10-19T20:03:04.638-06:00My vote: Dogs were probably domesticated across a...My vote: Dogs were probably domesticated across an arc extending from Eastern Europe to Mongolia.<br /><br />The most salient finding of this paper is that domestication occurred about 15,000 years ago, which places the domestication event firmly in the Late Upper Paleolithic.<br /><br />Personally, my vote would be that dogs were in a state of quasi domestication for a very long time. As long as megafauna were plentiful, wolves didn't need to become fully domesticated. It was only with the demise of many large mammals that dogs became fully domesticated.<br /><br />In any case, give high mobility in the Upper Paleolithic, and the long time scale, I think it very unlikely that domestication occurred specifically in Tibet or specifically in Mongolia.Marniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10850856778953207810noreply@blogger.com